In " Skate 3 - Meat Grindin' ", roughly 10 minutes in, tr*nny is used several times, I believe as slang for "transition". It is actually written as such in the game, and the Hat boys say it several times themselves.
Tr*nny, under no circumstances, is an okay thing to say.
It’s a word used to dehumanize trans* individuals similarly to how the f word is used to dehumanize homosexuals.
It’s shocking that someone even thought tr*nny could be used as slang for transition, that’s honestly disgusting.
So yeah, warning on this video. It contains transphobic slurs.
If anyone wants to further read up on as to why tr*nny is a slur, there’s an article about it here.
holy shit stop
the word tranny was used as shorthand before it was used as a slur towards trans people
not everything needs to be made into sjw bullshit
And the f word was used to mean a bunch of sticks before it became a slur
so just because it wasn’t, doesn’t mean it isn’t now.
Tr*nny is a slur used to associate transgender people with cross-dressing in a way to de-value their gender identity and insist it’s just a performance.
Being transgender isn’t crossdressing, it isn’t a performance, it’s a life.
nice @ that last ask implying that being christian makes you inherently rude stubborn and wrong :// anyway, ~9:30 into kim's video "MARTIMPRESSIONS! South Park: The Stick of Truth!" video martyn uses manhood to refer to a penis.
thank you anon for informing us.
(and yeah, being christian does not mean you’re rude, stubborn and wrong by default. it all depends on your practices and your connection to reality.)
These anons are really getting to me. Turps and Martyn aren't racist - That is not what the mods are saying. Turps and Martyn both SAID racist things (eg normal skin) because it's so ingrained into society that white = normal, when it's is not. That doesn't mean they're racist, it's means they're following along with society's racist views, because it's all they know. They could easily do away with ignorance like that. Stop bashing the mods already.
thank you very much, anon!
Arguing with you is like arguing with a christian or a politician. You give answers that twist the end meaning to make it sound like you're correct, but you're not. There are SOME occasions where you're right, but 90% of the time this tumblr is filled with horseshit. You make it sound like the guys are yogscast are racist, or sexist, or whatever fucking made up words you use. Most of the time, they use the words they use to mock the people who ACTUALLY use these words in an offensive manner.
Neither of which I am.
'You twist the end to make it sound like you're correct, but you're not.'
I’ll gladly take your attempt at proving me wrong. :’)
100% of the time you’re not obligated to be here so why torture yourself?
Racist? Occasionally. Sexist? Occasionally, and about those made up words, just because you haven’t heard of them doesn’t make them made up, you have google at your finger tips.
So you mean they’re satirical? Yeah… with satire you use sarcastic humour to point out the faults in something, but most of the things brought up here aren’t satirical? I’m like 99% sure all of the posts haven’t been satire?
I’m sorry but I can’t take your ask seriously because I’ve seen your tweets, I’m glad you’re telling me like it is though, keep telling me bout those made up words I or my co-moderators use.
I finally watched the clip from Turps' first episode of The Stick of Truth that everyone has been arguing about for the last few days. In the first minute and a half or so, Turps says "I'm going to be my normal pasty white [skintone]". He is taking ownership of his skin color. If a person can't take ownership of who they are, something is really flawed in your logic. Everyone is supposed to be empowered by who they are, but he can't even simply say that he has white skin. What is this?
That sentence would be absolutely fine if the word normal wasn’t in it.
Is the word normal necessary in that sentence? Nope.
may i please make the request that mod a doesn't pick up how people say things and that it means they are racist, as the Turps thing has gotten to the point where it's silly that it's being referred to as racist all because he was talking about his normal skin colour, if he wants to decide what someone said was racist it should be under circumstances where it is obvious and not something that has to be picked apart form a sentence to be called racist
sorry, but i have to politely decline your request.
associating “white skin” with “normal” is internalized racism, there is no way around it.
the bottom line is: the damage is done.
if you accidentally step on someone’s toes, you don’t get to decide how much pain is acceptable, that the person shouldn’t feel anything or that it’s okay because it was just accident.
you get off their toes, listen and apologize.
racism has a lot of nuances in everyday life, it goes far beyond just throwing the n-word around. it’s not that simple. so don’t try to pretend it is.
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To him white is normal when referring to himself. The issue you have here is that you read half of a sentence and take it out of context.
Literally you are constantly using normal to refer to how fine it is for Turps’ to call white skin normal even in reference to himself, which inherently carries the meaning that everything else is abnormal.
He can call himself white, he can call himself pasty, he can call himself a cracker for all I give a damn, he can’t call it normal.
This is why you’re missing the point: Turps skin is usually white.
Yes, and that’s what I’ve been saying.
Turps skin is normally white.
White isn’t a standard to conform to so the use of the word normal here doesn’t work.
It is the norm for Turp’s skin to be white. Therefore, when referring to his own skin, white is the norm for Turp’s skin. Do you see how that sentence evolved due to the various contextual definitions of the English language?
You’re literally saying norm and normal with the definition of usual and trying to pass it off as some progressive explanation to the meaning of ‘normal’.
Turps is an asshole and I am in no way defending him, but I am pulling you up on your shit. You fail to recognise the multiple contextual meanings of the word normal and insist that he was generalising everyone’s skin tone.
I didn’t say he was intentionally generalizing everyone’s skin tone, I said calling white skin normal even in reference to your own self carries the inherent implication that all other skin colours are abnormal.
You are literally looking for things you can poke a hole in now when there are so many things each day that you miss because even though you label yourself ‘problematicyogscast’ you don’t even watch all of the people that compile the yogscast!
Oh, I’m sorry, it’s not like this is a blog online which I run occasionally alongside the school work and various other things I have to take care of. I’m going to devote 24 hours a day to watching the Yogscast if that’s what will make you content with how I work here.
Why do you think you can expertly discuss an entire group of people when you don’t even watch half of them?
Every time I’ve mentioned someone from the Yogscast, I’ve included what the reason is and why I’m talking about it, it’s not like I’m taking wild stabs in the dark saying “Hmmm, I think, today, I’m gonna insist Hannah is biphobic”, I’d need a bloody good reason to say that.
But if how I run this blog is such an issue to you, you’re absolutely welcome to beginning your own blog and doing your own thing, I’m not gonna stop you.
And when you read half of a sentence and see the word normal and white skin together and assume Turps is being racist.
Tell me which half of the sentence “I’m gonna be my normal pasty white skin” I’m omitting?
And you’re under the impression that he’s consciously saying this to be racist, fgs I’m not saying that, what he said was racist, did he intend it to be? Probably not.
You need to take a step down for a bit Mod A because your priorities are in the wrong place. Heres possible alternatives Turps could have said that would actually be racist:
"My normal pasty flesh coloured skin"
You just substituted white with flesh coloured and now it’s suddenly racist? Why? Because if he selected white it carries implication that he means flesh colour and white are the same thing? So basically the inherent implication of his words and actions constitute it as racist.
Pretty much what we’re talking about using different context.
"The normal pasty white coloured skin"
This is pretty racist yeah.
The ‘My’ in his sentence, if you remember back to when we first learnt English, means that the sentence is possessive.
That the noun in the sentence is his and that the adjectives in the sentence describe the possessive noun.
From this basic theory it can be seen that the skin he is talking about is his own, and that the adjectives used were to describe his own skin.
If there was no ‘my’ then yeah I’d be all up in arms with you.
You do realize Martyn used the same excuse of “I’m talking about myself.”
If the word ‘flesh’ was used then I’d be all up in arms with you again (implying flesh colour is the same as his own is actually racist).
Oh, haha, but saying white skin is normal isn’t.
Despite being an asshole, Turps is highly articulate (what I’d expect from Marketting, both asshole and articulate), so he knows damn well how to form a sentence to not offend anyone.
Yeah, doubt that.
I’ve witnessed this on multiple occasions in his videos, even though he disagrees that he has to (too politically correct for him haw haw) he knows what he can and can’t say. And say white skin is the norm is one of those things, which is why he stressed ‘my’.
This is literally the last thing I’m saying on the matter because I’m sure everyone is fed up now.
"Martyn said “Normal skin tone”Turps’ said “My Normal skin colour”" In both cases they are referring to what their skin colouration *normally* is. If they were to wake up with bright blue skin, it would not be normal *for them*. From the OED "ADJECTIVE1Conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected:" So yeah, they mean that, if they make a character that looks like them, it would be expected to , well, look like them, using *their* normal skin colour.
Hence why the word usual is a better suited word, something habitual, something that can change but does occur.
White isn’t a standard, it isn’t “white and then everything else.”
The word choice is an issue; usual and normal have different meanings.
And please, don’t go with the imaginary skin colours to somehow justify this argument, we’re not talking about imaginary scenarios that won’t ever happen. We’re talking about people in this world right now.
white is NOT the default. end of the story: if you associate white skin with “”“normal”“”, you are part of the problem!!
1) The OED is written by people in positions of privilege. It probably isn’t the best example to use if you’re trying to justify the oppression of minorities. (Although, why the heck would you try to justify that.)
2) You’re twisting the definition to apply to individual cases. If you expand that to apply to a wider audience (society), then you’ll see what the mods are getting at.
3) “Conforming to a standard”. They used the term ‘normal’ in relation to their skin color, thereby saying that their skin color (white) “conform[s] to a standard”. That white is “usual, typical, or expected”. (And I’m using the definition that you provided, in case you haven’t noticed. Because how handy-dandy is it that your argument is actually super contradictory to what you’re trying to say? Very handy-dandy.)
4) You clearly don’t know how to use dictionaries properly, nonnie.
sorry but i can't see why referring to the skin colour they're born with means they can't use the word normal. If they said their usual skin colour it makes it seem like other days they might be a different skin colour. Simple as using my normal skin colour as a way to phrase it is fine and i'm sure most people will agree otherwise they'll have to spend so long thinking can i use the word normal here or not that they won't make videos
Well you could have a different skin colour? I mean here’s a simple way of proving that, hold one hand up and one hand down for 30 seconds, then put them side to side, the difference in the blood levels makes your skin a different colour.
Literally the word normal isn’t even needed in the sentence, if you remove the word normal, the sentence holds a completely different meaning and no issue arises? So the fact they’re gonna spend ages trying to think of a substitute for normal isn’t long, I mean again, you can say usual which means something habitual, “____ is my usual skin colour” as in it’s the one I’ll usually select, no harm done, not throwing anyone under the bus.
Words have meanings and there’s fine lines between some.
These two sentences for example, have completely different meanings by the use of normal and usual.
"Heterosexuality is the normal sexuality of a society"
"Heterosexuality is the usual sexuality of a society"
Why on earth would you think that is a fair comparison?! Holy fuck. The sentence Turps said was personal and referred to himself, the example you gave refers to the entire of society. You are fucked up oh my god. Can you honestly not see past your own crap right now?
You do realize the definition of normal and usual don’t change depending on if the sentence is possessive or not right?
Like if you wanna take it to personal things, people who are bigender for example, don’t say “I’m normally a man”, they say “Usually a man” because neither of their genders are the standard, regardless to if they associate with one gender more.
Is this whole 'the Yogs are awful racists' thing really based on the semantics of them saying 'normal' instead of 'usual'? They both mean practically the same thing in everyday conversation, they said 'normal' because that happens to be the word that came to mind out of the two, not because they're deliberately trying to undermine ethnic minorities. I doubt you'd even give a shit about them saying 'normal' if they weren't white anyway, you're just trying too hard to be a social justice warrior.
Nah, it’s on them describing white skin as normal, and no they don’t mean practically the same thing because normal means a default/standard while usual means a habitual occurrence which is open to change.
I know why he said normal, I know it wasn’t on purpose, I know he probably didn’t intend to be racist, I’m not saying it was a conscious choice he made. I’m saying it was an ignorant remark which is racist and it’s because we’re drilled to believe white = normal.
Actually I would, if anyone calls white skin normal that’s a big issue, it’s a subtle indicator of how the media has fooled us.
I’m 100% a social justice warrior, nothing like a good suit of armour and a long sword.